Richard Deitsch and Andrew Marchand are sports media writers for The Athletic. They converse every couple of weeks on sports media topics. Today, they discuss the NBA Finals from a media perspective, with thoughts on the future of ESPN’s NBA Finals booth; the expectation of the NBA Finals drawing low viewership (Indianapolis is the 25th-largest media market in the country and Oklahoma City is No. 47). Plus, they discuss “Inside The NBA” moving to ABC/ESPN next season and whether viewers should expect changes from ESPN management to the show.
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Richard Deitsch: Let’s start with what you reported on Wednesday: ESPN is planning to reevaluate its entire NBA on-air game roster outside of Mike Breen, including Doris Burke’s spot as a Finals announcer not guaranteed for next season, and Richard Jefferson’s contract expiring and his broadcasting destination next year still up for grabs.
What’s been clear is that this booth lacks great on-air chemistry. Each broadcaster individually has shined elsewhere. They know the sport cold. But it’s not a symphony. It’s a three-piece band, each doing its own thing. It is also an issue of ESPN’s own making. What I wrote in July 2023 remains true today: ESPN laying off Jeff Van Gundy was a brutally bad decision.
Andrew Marchand: I think what gets lost is it takes time. Joe Buck left Fox for ESPN because the contract was for so much and he would work less, but another part of his calculus was staying with Troy Aikman. It is hard to build chemistry quickly with a new partner, and Buck did not want to start over. Breen is an all-time great, but the play-by-play broadcaster is most responsible for making a new team work. It’s not easy, and it has shown these past two years. The NBA Finals is a hard place for on-the-job training.
Are TV networks with NBA rights possibly keeping a seat warm for Steve Kerr, Steph Curry or Draymond Green? (Ezra Shaw / Getty Images)
Deitsch: Management has a decision: Do we once again change our booth, or ride this one in the hopes of the booth naturally growing? The turnover over the past three years has been disjointed for ESPN viewers. Some of this is on ESPN management. Some was out of its control. Could they have anticipated Doc Rivers bailing out of that deal so early? I think the gamble on J.J. Redick was logical. If Danny Hurley had taken the Lakers job, maybe this is Year 2 of that booth, and who knows?
But can you turn this booth over yet again? We probably won’t get into this, but I also guarantee that, internally, ESPN is worried that NBC and Amazon Prime Video are going to come out of the box strong, and people are going to make comparisons.
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Marchand: I think you just hit on the most interesting subplot: Neither Prime nor NBC have hired a No. 1. Amazon has Stan Van Gundy as its top analyst so far, while NBC has Jamal Crawford or Reggie Miller.
(Now, I’m putting up my Brian Windhorst two fingers).
Why have they done that?
There is an upcoming class of analysts these platforms are eying for their new 11-year deals: LeBron James, Steph Curry, Draymond Green and Steve Kerr will all potentially go into broadcasting in some fashion. James and Curry as game analysts would cost hundreds of millions, while Green seems more of a studio guy. If Kerr stepped away from coaching, all three NBA national partners would likely want him on games.
Deitsch: Onto another topic. It has no impact on whether NBA fans will enjoy the finals or whether the finals will produce great basketball, but in our world, viewership metrics are always a significant story. Heading into the finals, the NBA has a good viewership story to tell.
Sports Business Journal’s Austin Karp reported that the 2025 NBA postseason is up 3 percent across NBA TV, ESPN, ABC, ESPN2, TNT and truTV. One individual highlight: The Eastern Conference finals averaged seven million viewers across the six games. That’s up three percent from the corresponding Western Conference finals on TNT the year before.
With Indianapolis and Oklahoma City being small media markets and lacking a fundamental star such as Steph Curry or LeBron James, there is an expectation: That this series is going to struggle to draw viewership unless it goes very deep. My bold prediction: If the series goes to Game 7, which most people do not expect, it will draw 22.5 million viewers, more than this year’s college football title game.
It’s a prediction based on momentum, as well as Nielsen capturing better out-of-home measurement for sporting events (which means higher reported data for televised sporting events). Alas, I don’t expect it to get to Game 7. How do you look at this?
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Marchand: I think the world has largely changed with us all being more connected. The idea of the big market vs. small market is not the issue with these teams. They just are nameless to the casual fan. If OKC becomes a dynasty, I think that changes, and they may become more interesting. To me, it is less that the markets are small, but rather the stars are not as well-known.
The “Inside the NBA” crew moves from TNT to ESPN next season. (Michael Loccisano / Getty Images for TNT )
Deitsch: Let’s hit on one more topic of great interest to sports viewers: “Inside The NBA” moving to ESPN next season. I have witnessed your media tour on this topic, and we agree that ESPN isn’t going to tinker with the show. They literally gave up game inventory for it. (Sure, the game inventory wasn’t SEC football, but they outlayed money.)
We already have proof of concept here. Jimmy Pitaro and Co. have let “The Pat McAfee Show” run essentially untouched. Same with anything out of Omaha Productions. I don’t worry about ESPN trying to censor Charles Barkley, Shaquille O’Neal, Ernie Johnson and Kenny Smith on any third-rail topic.
But I am concerned about Inside the NBA getting the same kind of length in the postgame that it got on TNT. The ESPN programming grid is far more rigid. That’s where I think the essence of the show could be hurt.
Marchand: We’ll see, but ESPN executives have eyes and ears. Pitaro made this deal to have “Inside The NBA,” the most iconic studio show of all-time. Why would he or ESPN water down or ruin it? I can’t promise that your fears won’t be realized, but there is no way of knowing, except what they have said.
I think the examples of what you said are accurate, and Pitaro has shown he’s willing to outsource programming if he thinks it is additive. I think this column still holds true.
(Photo: Matthew Stockman / Getty Images)
